I would favor putting the same stacking penalties on non DPS effects fleet ewar/remote rep that modules have, as it is an already well understood principle on ship fitting. Applying more than 4 remote rep on any one ship would become useless after the fourth...

I feel like you have a bot that auto-replies to any thread with Logistics in the title with this particular quote.

Also... it would seem you got your wish, at least with structures

I've been tinkering with logistics mechanic lately, and a few weeks ago I saw a blog arguing a strong case for shifting logistics into resist/boost modifiers/capacitor roles, and putting the main repair role on the targets themselves. I hope that is the way we are headed, and I'd personally love to take it as far as maybe dismantling the entire logistics class of ships and rather spread the bonuses over several ships. With this in mind I have an actual suggestion to counter alpha mechanics somewhat, and to bridge the gap between shield booster and extenders.

With the recent appearance of doomsdaying sleeper battleships there is a mechanic around the buffer shield they have on top of normal shields that I find interesting. What if every ship could generate such a buffer by running a local shieldbooster/armorrepper after the shields were full. This buffer would not be repairable by logistics, and would be a bandaid/incentive for people to move towards a life where logistic wings would be actual "support ship" and not the core requirement for a fleet getting off the ground or not.

As for balance issues resulting from this, I'd like to think that the current divide between pve and pvp fittings were blurred slightly and would create for more interesting battles all around.

Logi in mass blob warfare is OP
Logi in small gang warfare is MASSIVELY OP
Logi in fleet based PVE is just as much as is needed

A lot of PVE has absurdly high incoming damage because logi can handle it. It's hugely unbalanced for PVP but you see that MUCH less in blob warfare because forty five battleships can break your tank no matter how many logi are on you.

You're absolutely right about people not being willing to fly what's best for the fleet, often people prefer pew pew over a ship that's simply better in many ways even just for the individual in the fleet. But that indicates a flaw in the way optimum fleet layout is balanced versus what players want to fly. There are a handful of players who actually like flying logi or EWAR, and crowds who like to fly guns or missiles. We should be pushing the ideal fleet balance to reflect what people want to fly--make a few EWAR or logi useful, but have their usefulness scale downward with greater numbers. This will also help squash infinite sustainment in fleets, and make it so both sides take damage in a real fight, even if one side is a lot bigger.

DPS modules on ships do not have stacking penalties.
The line of suggestion I support on this is to use a system for fleet effect control that players are already familiar with modules and has been a big part of Eve game design since the start. DPS have never been capped on ship modules.

Now the damage mitigation would cap damage on the largest end game structures. This new concept prevents the N+1 domination that can only be countered by more alts/players, foprcing the larger forces to split across multiple objectives to remain efficient.

The current power of the Imperium is their numbers and having used all the technics the game offers to reduce the size of other groups, from sowing dissenssions through anonymous alts, leveraging the CSM to limit the effectiveness of new features that would threaten their ISK making, and developing a propaganda and media machine to keep their numbers growing. They certainly succeeded, like the roman empire did through conquest, organisation and assimilation.

The game must provide mechanics to allow smaller groups to effectively challenge their domination, and this can only occur if the game system stops making N+1 the ultimate response to every major battles.

There's no reason to hate people for enjoying what they enjoy, and there's no reason to purposely balance the game against the fun of the players.
blatantly overpowered logi

I'm not suggesting giving unsynergized fleets any sort of advantage.

I am suggesting that proper synergies could be more fun for all parties involved.
I am also suggesting that logi is too powerful. You like letting the smarter side win? Well logi currently is always the right answer. Nerf it and suddenly other choices become relevant, now smartness matters more.

You seem to be suggesting that they would rather be the 8th Caracal than the 5th Blackbird/Celestis/Bellicose. As it stands, the optimal fleet setup for just about anything is a maximum of maybe 60% DPS ships, even really large fleets still want tons of support ships of various flavors. A lot of times an actual optimum setup has less than 40% DPS, especially since you can stack several logi and become virtually invincible.

I'm just saying maybe it'd be good if instead of optimal fleets being half DPS, they were optimal at 3/4ths DPS. Of course when everyone is jumping on the same bandwagon and nobody wants to fly logi your fleet is going to have zero logi power. That doesn't mean the first logi or two need to be enough to tank an entire small fleet, stacking infinitely no matter how many logi you choose to bring. As it stands, 1 logi cruiser can rep about 3 DPS cruisers worth of damage, and 1 EWAR cruiser can effectively remove 2-3 other ships of any subcap size from the battle while still being pretty solidly tanked.

What happens when both fleets bring enough logi? A stalemate. Stalemates suck.